Pastors in Recovery · Episode 115
Presence is where love gets lived.
Released Wednesday, November 11, 2026

Dave and Linda are on vacation, but Dave keeps replaying church business in his head. Then Linda asks him a question that stays with him. Does he know how to be Dave when he’s away from his role as Pastor Dave?
Jon shares a strange dream and reflects on what it means to be present with the people we love, especially when ministry keeps asking for our attention.
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